Feel a little guilty since I started this thread and have not followed thru with it. However, here goes.
I cleaned my P1 (aka P38) didn't use the hair dryer to warm up the pistol. Used the oil and some of the paste. Lo and behold, all the parts I cleaned the patches came out clean. I must have an extremely clean P1.
I haven't tried any on my 1911R1, but will do so before and after my next range trip. There's a freeze warning (again) here in central PA, so range trips are few and far between until the weather gets a little bit warmer(outdoor range).
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